Very slight problem with DD
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Very slight problem with DD
I posted this elsewhere in another discussion, but it's relevant to you guys - a little...
I do have ONE negative to say about the S-11...being that I'm running "double Darkside" or a CT in back with a rear MC in front...the one difference in tread design on the S-11 is the rear lacks the cut down the center of the tire.(well, also a bit thicker tire) What it does is occasionally when stopping, the front end gets very sticky in the last few feet, as if your steering head bearings needed grease.
Simply releasing the front brake, (which you shouldn't be using under 10mph anyway) releases that sticky feeling and restores steering.
I rode the rain with it and absolutely loved it. DD gives the feeling of being almost on a dry road.
Anyone else have this happen? My steering head bearings were greased when I redid the fork springs, and freeplay is correct, so it's the tire. But it's not bothersome at all. Actually, it reminds me that I have the front brake on when it shouldn't be.
I do have ONE negative to say about the S-11...being that I'm running "double Darkside" or a CT in back with a rear MC in front...the one difference in tread design on the S-11 is the rear lacks the cut down the center of the tire.(well, also a bit thicker tire) What it does is occasionally when stopping, the front end gets very sticky in the last few feet, as if your steering head bearings needed grease.
Simply releasing the front brake, (which you shouldn't be using under 10mph anyway) releases that sticky feeling and restores steering.
I rode the rain with it and absolutely loved it. DD gives the feeling of being almost on a dry road.
Anyone else have this happen? My steering head bearings were greased when I redid the fork springs, and freeplay is correct, so it's the tire. But it's not bothersome at all. Actually, it reminds me that I have the front brake on when it shouldn't be.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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Re: Very slight problem with DD
I've problems with my DD for years my friend, but the ugly truth is that it's mostly my fault !
CaribCruiser- Number of posts : 673
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Re: Very slight problem with DD
Not sure! My friend ride (DD), the S11 on the front and no issues from him! I rode it and didn't feel anything either like that!
Hmmmmmmm! I think you need further investigation!
.....................bobby
Hmmmmmmm! I think you need further investigation!
.....................bobby
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Re: Very slight problem with DD
Perhaps the steering hub was greased, but unless you did it, were the bearings checked? This really does seem to be bearing going bad in the hub. Depending on where you live, Winter is a great time to check these things out.
Re: Very slight problem with DD
I had the front end apart when I put spacers over my springs to give it a stiffer head. While the triples were out, I greased the bearings, and of course, adjusted everything when I put it back together. It's totally free set to zero without preload and this bike only has 17k on it. Odd.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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Re: Very slight problem with DD
Actually, I should have suggested how to test the steering bearings in my first reply, and somehow missed doing so.
Jack the front tire off the pavement, with the bike in a completely upright condition. With the bars at center, give them a slight nudge to one side and then the other. If the tension is correct, they should move slowly to the stop on that side, and the other.
While jacked up, move the bars slowly from side to side, there should be no feelings of glitches, bumps, catches, nothing what so ever. Anything like that, could indicate a bearing or two that's been distorted in shape.
Either the steering head being too tight, or even one of the bearings being flattened, can be magnified while on the road. Quite often not visible even if you completely clean the bearings and visibly check them.
Good luck, hope you find the problem. This sounds as if it could put you in a dangerous situation, especially if it worsens.
Jack the front tire off the pavement, with the bike in a completely upright condition. With the bars at center, give them a slight nudge to one side and then the other. If the tension is correct, they should move slowly to the stop on that side, and the other.
While jacked up, move the bars slowly from side to side, there should be no feelings of glitches, bumps, catches, nothing what so ever. Anything like that, could indicate a bearing or two that's been distorted in shape.
Either the steering head being too tight, or even one of the bearings being flattened, can be magnified while on the road. Quite often not visible even if you completely clean the bearings and visibly check them.
Good luck, hope you find the problem. This sounds as if it could put you in a dangerous situation, especially if it worsens.
Re: Very slight problem with DD
Yeah, you're right. I have my bike up on the jack all the time when I work on or wash it. The steering goes freely on the Harley, with no resistance or bumps, grinds, or stuttering. As I said, it's not a big problem, but I just like perfection and that ain't it.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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Registration date : 2010-05-02
Re: Very slight problem with DD
Understand what you say about 'perfection', especially in performance of the bike. I can live with a dirty bike, usually only washed when riding through rain, a few dings and dents, and other such cosmetic problems. But, as you, want the mechanics of the bike to perform to perfection, or as close as any mechanical device can get.
Re: Very slight problem with DD
FYI:Any bearing,whether it be a sealed unit,a needle bearing,or a ball bearing,can be tested by simply cleaning it thoroughly,then holding it in the middle with two fingers while rotating it slowly with the other hand.What you're looking for is any sign of roughness or binding while it's being rotated.And if there is a problem with it,you'll feel it right away. Dave!!!
Davetac1- Number of posts : 15
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Re: Very slight problem with DD
And while you're cleaning it, it was always recommended NOT to spin it with the air gun at high speed. I think that was to avoid chipping or something. I have doused them in alcohol and burned out old hard grease in the corners and such, then cleaned it again by brush, gas and air (not spinning).
These days I avoid the gas on the skin due to osmosis.
These days I avoid the gas on the skin due to osmosis.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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D/D
NO! NO! NO! don't ever put a bearing on your fingers and hit it with air, if that bearing comes apart (whitch they have) you'll be missing fingers !!!
grumpybutt- Number of posts : 35
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Re: Very slight problem with DD
grumpybutt wrote:NO! NO! NO! don't ever put a bearing on your fingers and hit it with air, if that bearing comes apart (whitch they have) you'll be missing fingers !!!
You got that right.I've seen it happen.Infact,it happened to me once.But i was lucky as it did not seize while on my fingers.It just disintergrated and came apart in my hand but I was able to toss it before it did do damage.Needless to say,I learned my lesson and never, "NEVER" did it again.So this is GOOD ADVICE and a WARNING from this gentleman. Dave!!!
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