very close now

im almost ready to witch. but the handleing issue is holding me back.
im wondering if there is a tire that is well rounded on the sides and if it would help with countersteering.
also does it feel funny when riding slow in parking lots or just any slow manuvering.what is it like riding 2 up. most of my riding is with me and the B&C.
thanks for any input

There are no problems countersteering with any tire. It might take a little more effort to start the turn, but after a few hundred miles you wont notice that anymore because it will become natural for you. The only thing I ever notice is once in a while the tire will hit a rut and want to ride on top of it instead of in it. But I must admit when I had a mt it would toss me from side to side when I got in a rut. Think I like on top better. Slow manuvering is slow manuvering. You want to turn sharper, turn the handle bars more.
I'm running a Yokahama Avid 205/70/15 on my 07 1300R and will do more than I have the nerve to ask it to.
In other words just go for it. There are enough people here now that you have to realize that it works. And since you are here asking questions you will switch over just to see for yourself if it could possibly be true. So just do it.

Jerry

+1 on what Jedison said. Here's the positive of more countersteering to get into the turns. When I had my motorcycle tire on the rear I was always having to over correct from getting in tooooo easy and turning sharper than the radius of the turn. Now it goes just where I point it and makes me a smoother rider! So, I think the added countersteer is a PLUS! I aint the only one that thinks this way!

Plus what Jedison said...I don't even notice it now and it all is second nature.


.....................bobby

jedishon wrote:There are no problems countersteering with any tire. It might take a little more effort to start the turn, but after a few hundred miles you wont notice that anymore because it will become natural for you. The only thing I ever notice is once in a while the tire will hit a rut and want to ride on top of it instead of in it. But I must admit when I had a mt it would toss me from side to side when I got in a rut. Think I like on top better. Slow manuvering is slow manuvering. You want to turn sharper, turn the handle bars more.
I'm running a Yokahama Avid 205/70/15 on my 07 1300R and will do more than I have the nerve to ask it to.
In other words just go for it. There are enough people here now that you have to realize that it works. And since you are here asking questions you will switch over just to see for yourself if it could possibly be true. So just do it.

Jerry

[b]I agree! LOVE my GYTT! [/b]

ordered a gytt today got some airsoft bbs .25 gram bought some sealant and sandpaper. should have spokes sealed and on the darkside by the end of the week

are you guys sure that the 205/65r15 will fit a 1300 s. not doubting just like to be sure

Greg Riddle wrote:ordered a gytt today got some airsoft bbs .25 gram bought some sealant and sandpaper. should have spokes sealed and on the darkside by the end of the week

are you guys sure that the 205/65r15 will fit a 1300 s. not doubting just like to be sure

Good luck and let's us know how it comes out. Remember, seating tires are very dangerous!

Greg Riddle wrote:ordered a gytt today got some airsoft bbs .25 gram bought some sealant and sandpaper. should have spokes sealed and on the darkside by the end of the week

are you guys sure that the 205/65r15 will fit a 1300 s. not doubting just like to be sure

It can be a challenge to seat, but it will fit. If you are running stock exhaust you will need to turn the exhaust bolts around so they don't rub.
Make sure you clean the rim with a scotch guard pad before you start. Like Twin says it can be very dangerous. Good luck.

jerry

Just did my 1300s with a GYTT 205/70R15. There is about 1/2 inch clearance on both sides of fender. A 65 might be a little too wide. The shop said they required 140 psi to seat (I didn't seal my spokes, so had to use a tube). My thoughts is to let a pro do it.Thier normal rate for mounting a tire is $10.00 and they charged me $20.00 because it's a pain in the ass. Well worth the money. Good Luck.

Always tip your guy if he has to work extra for it.
We put a Dunlop Signature 205/70/15 on my buddy's 1300VTX and he won't run anything else again. STRANGELY...he GAINED 14mpg after putting the wider, heavier, slightly taller tire on. I guess those bikes just don't like the tire Hondu recommends for them. Not to mention he'd only get 4k out of it.

HawaiianVTX wrote:Just did my 1300s with a GYTT 205/70R15. There is about 1/2 inch clearance on both sides of fender. A 65 might be a little too wide. The shop said they required 140 psi to seat (I didn't seal my spokes, so had to use a tube). My thoughts is to let a pro do it.Thier normal rate for mounting a tire is $10.00 and they charged me $20.00 because it's a pain in the ass. Well worth the money. Good Luck.

im confused. not real tire smart but shouldnt the 205/65 and the 250/70 be the same width.

Yes they are. The 65 and 70 are different side wall heights. The 70 is a little taller, making the seat width a little narrower, so its a little easier to seat.

Jerry

In a perfect world they should be the same width but in the real world I think you will find the 65 to be wider also.The demensions will also vary from one manufacturer to the next

I was under the impression that the first number was the overall size of the tire i.e. 205 cm with the second number was the percentage of side wall i.e. 70 being 70% side wall and leaving 30% for the width. If this is the correct ratio then a 205/70 would have 71.5 sidewall height and 61.5 tread width. A 195/65 would have 63.375 sidewall height and 68.5 width. This keeps with the other posts saying that the 70 would give you lower high end revs because of the increased sidewall height compared to the 65's.

I was under the impression that the first number was the width, PERIOD. The second is percentage of the first for height. This proved exactly true with my tires, so I don't see how a "leftover" percentage of the aspect height would equate to width. (called "depth" in tire lingo I see)

BTW, you will have a VERY pleasant surprise when you add a passenger! I found out yesterday, logged it in the Heritage thread.

Stand corrected. Googled "Tire siz explained" and the site said same. first number is width in milimeters, second number is size of sidewall as a percentage of width and third number is whell size. So a 70 is taller tire than a 65. Now on to something else!!!!

Well, HERE is your something else: you can gear up/down the bike to correct speedos or just change gearing by using a different aspect ratio:
http://www.barretire.com/calculator.htm

sealed the back rimturned out good.
also ended up getting themich hydro edge 205/70 15

anyone else wanting to seal the spokes. alcohol cleans the sealant of realy easy

Greg Riddle wrote:sealed the back rimturned out good.
also ended up getting themich hydro edge 205/70 15

anyone else wanting to seal the spokes. alcohol cleans the sealant of realy easy

Way to go Greg. Sounds like your well on your way. Don't forget to take a few pictures. Moon hates reading every thing, picture make it easy for him.

Jerry

unfortuneately darkside is not going to work for me. it did feel weird but i think i could get used to that. the problem i hide was a nasty wable while i was in a turn and hit a dip in the road. any one want a michelin hydro edge let me know

That was from the bushings on your shocks being worn out. Mine did the same. Put in new bushings, replaced the steering bearings with alls balls and never had another problem until the bushings wore out again. I would replace the bushings if it was me. To bade you gave up on it. The wierd feeling would have went away with air pressure changes. At any rate if you could write up a report for us I would like to read your experience.

Jerry

I see you're now going to sell the tire without fixing the problem? Seems to me that what may be a shock problem became evident from the CT - but will still be there if you mount a MT back on there.

shock bushings are new

Okay, then I would be checking a few other things. Let's see...axle, steering neck, and front wheel bearings. Tire pressure, as mentioned (different for each weight load), wheel balance (probably not this since it happened on a dip?) wind on that day, spoke tightness/adjustments (wheel runout), and the biggie, swingarm bushings. I wouldn't even ride it with ANY tire on it until I looked at all these things, which is a good idea anyway, anytime.
People seem to love that tire.

shock bushings good wheel runout not great but not enough to affect mc tire axle good steering bearings just checked good all wheel bearings good. i believe it was the way the car tie rides and the road conditions. also ride it gravel and dirt with ruts that didnt go well either. put the bike tire back on today and all is well. rides fine no wannle. but like i posted earlier it wasnt realy a wable. the best way i can explain it was when ihit uneven pavement and the bike kinda pushes to one dircetion riding over the uneven crack. it was like that only alot worse