Car tire on a bike? Why?

Im sure I will get beat up over this but here it goes. Something you car tire guys should consider before putting a car tire on a bike. Tires no matter if its for a bike or car,are measured and "weighed" in whats called a force machine.They are checked for radial,radial first,lateral and conicity. The two tires have to totally different limits. The biggest factor you guys are gonna deal with somewhere down the road is the even wear and I would guess conicity (side pull). A car tire is forced with parameters for the weight of a car.I see car tires that force between 17 to 22 pounds of radial and 5 to 11 pounds of conicity.You guys think your gonna gain on mileage or whatever your doin it for but your taking a chance with safety.Just because it fits dont mean it works.Good luck

Thanks for your input.....I'm sure it will mean something to someone......All I know is the tire on my bike goes round and round, and I'm happy with that......

Jerry

I dont surprise I would get a response like that from this site.Looks like you would spend a thousand dollars making you bike look nice but wont spend the $100 bucks to maintain it right.

buds dad wrote:Im sure I will get beat up over this but here it goes. Something you car tire guys should consider before putting a car tire on a bike. Tires no matter if its for a bike or car,are measured and "weighed" in whats called a force machine.They are checked for radial,radial first,lateral and conicity. The two tires have to totally different limits. The biggest factor you guys are gonna deal with somewhere down the road is the even wear and I would guess conicity (side pull). A car tire is forced with parameters for the weight of a car.I see car tires that force between 17 to 22 pounds of radial and 5 to 11 pounds of conicity.You guys think your gonna gain on mileage or whatever your doin it for but your taking a chance with safety.Just because it fits dont mean it works.Good luck

you are brave. comming to a darkside fourm cutting down darksiders. you use a lot of $10 words that dont mean much to people who have ridden thousands of miles on car tires Safely. Go find some other fourm to have your fun..

Im not cutting down anyone.I dont know anyone of you guys and I was just posting some info on the safety aspects of mounting a car tire on your beloved site.But if thats how you see it then I will go to another site.You guys are the brave ones as far as Im concerned.get educated before you do something stupid.I hope you get a million safe miles out of your tire.Sorry to offend you "darksiders".

you are brave. comming to a darkside fourm cutting down darksiders. you use a lot of $10 words that dont mean much to people who have ridden thousands of miles on car tires Safely. Go find some other fourm to have your fun..

What are you gonna do cut me with your light saber?

buds dad wrote:Im not cutting down anyone.I dont know anyone of you guys and I was just posting some info on the safety aspects of mounting a car tire on your beloved site.But if thats how you see it then I will go to another site.You guys are the brave ones as far as Im concerned.get educated before you do something stupid.I hope you get a million safe miles out of your tire.Sorry to offend you "darksiders".

you are brave. comming to a darkside fourm cutting down darksiders. you use a lot of $10 words that dont mean much to people who have ridden thousands of miles on car tires Safely. Go find some other fourm to have your fun..

What are you gonna do cut me with your light saber?

But we are educated. that is why we no longer ride on no traction, poor performance, Unsafe motorcycle tires.

Thanks Dad.

Not sure why you decided today was the day to troll the darkside forums, but if you really want to make a point about safety, please explain how my 700 pound bike is going to stress a tire to the point of failure when that tire is designed to hold up a 3500 pound vehicle?
When a car turns, the car stays level and all the force is pushing the tire from the side, when the bike turns, it leans into the turn, so the majority of the force from the bike is still pushing straight down on the tire. So not only is the tire understressed from the weight of the bike, but also has very little side to side force pushing on it during the turns.
Car tires(most) use a softer compound than motorcycle tires. There is more tire on the road at all times with a car tire. So the tire has more grip than a motorcycle tire and you have more tire on the road! Both very safe!! And yes, there is more tread to a car tire so it lasts longer.

You used alot of big words during your sermon, but until you man up and actually try what your complaining about, you don't have a clue!!

I beleave the ct has already been proven, and seams to be safe, or safer than a mt.
I dont have as many miles as some of the guys that have been running them for yrs.
There havent been any report of failures of accidents caused by running a ct on a bike, I have had some close calls caused by the mt and feel safer with the ct. It has been proven.
That being said. GO TROLL SOME WHERE ELSE.

buds dad wrote:Im sure I will get beat up over this but here it goes. Something you car tire guys should consider before putting a car tire on a bike. Tires no matter if its for a bike or car,are measured and "weighed" in whats called a force machine.They are checked for radial,radial first,lateral and conicity. The two tires have to totally different limits. The biggest factor you guys are gonna deal with somewhere down the road is the even wear and I would guess conicity (side pull). A car tire is forced with parameters for the weight of a car.I see car tires that force between 17 to 22 pounds of radial and 5 to 11 pounds of conicity.You guys think your gonna gain on mileage or whatever your doin it for but your taking a chance with safety.Just because it fits dont mean it works.Good luck

buds dad,

If you were really worried about our safety...WHY DON'T YOU TELL US TO SELL OUR BIKES AND BUY AN "SUV"........ So what so un-safe about riding a motorcycle with a car tire that aren't already inherently dangerous riding against cagers on cell phones.

Well that's what is SAFE about the car tire. More control, improved stopping power, more traction when it is limited by weather or road conditions, and rain grooves that NEVER go away after a few 1000 miles as with a motorcycle tire. I guess you think motorcycle tires have softer rubber than car tires and makes them so much better than car tires also.....huh? If you do think that you are mistaken grossly!

Why would you think that's the answer you thought you would get over here, when you are the response that ignorant people give us who don't have all the data. I say ignorant as that you are un-educated to the the darkside is the only way you could make that statement. Spoken like a true outsider by your own words. Come on.....if it's sooooooo dangerous and un-safe....show us some facts?


.........................bobby

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I'm not going to bash anyone here... BUT... What I think is hilarious is that all these naysayers keep saying the CT has been proven to be unsafe?? Well what's really funny is the other side of that.... They haven't been proven to be UNsafe either!!! I'm keeping my CT.... When I buy a new bike, I'll take off the MT and put on a CT. Just they way I am and they way I like the ride and performance of a CT..

Thanks!!!

I personally went darkside because I'm really sick and tired of living and figured my wife could not collect my life insurance policy if I killed myself, but a bike crash would net her enough money to live well for many years and take care of my girls.

Really, I swear this is the dumbest idea I have ever had, I KNOW it will kill me but dang it life just ain't worth living any more.


Of course I could just be full of Shirt too!

George

yeah my bike spontainiously combusted yesterday i think it was the combination of the ct and i put car air in too. oh well being dead is fun lol

I guess being in the tire manufacturing industry for the last 22 years makes me ignorant to the ins and outs of how tires work and designed.Good luck to you all and may the force be with you.I can see you all are a bunch of lame tight wads who would rather spend your money on starwars figures for your bikes than maintain them with the right stuff.Hell half of you cant even spell, makes me understand why you put car tires on your bikes.SOMEONE PLEASE remove me from your member registry.I didnt know this site was for dumb asses.

Guest wrote:I guess being in the tire manufacturing industry for the last 22 years makes me ignorant to the ins and outs of how tires work and designed.Good luck to you all and may the force be with you.I can see you all are a bunch of lame tight wads who would rather spend your money on starwars figures for your bikes than maintain them with the right stuff.Hell half of you cant even spell, makes me understand why you put car tires on your bikes.SOMEONE PLEASE remove me from your member registry.I didn't know this site was for dumb asses.

Thanks for pointing out how narrow minded you really are, but I do have to ask how you really feel?

Your 22 years of being in the industry might be over shadowed by the history of motorcycling to begin with. If you look at the early automobile you'll notice the size and dimensions of the tire used back then. Then take a look at the tires the first true motorcycles. If it is beyond your capacity to add two and two together I'll help simplify it for you, they are the same tire.

Advancements to both machines and the parts used have changed drastically over the years just like that of the basic tools we use today. Back then all they had was their intelligence and nature. We've forged our tools and use them on a regular basis and improve upon them. All in all, the first basic tool was the rock with it's several different uses. Now one would think that we've gotten away from using such a primitive tool with all the technology we have access to today, but it still doesn't mean that a simple rock can't be used to nail a tent stake in when you don't have a hammer.

Be happy that you live in a country that allows you the simple right to speak your mind. You have the right to your opinion , doesn't mean that we have to agree with it. So please, continue to be narrow minded to something that has worked for several years with no problem. We'll continue to defy the odds by doing what is sensible and not conform to the masses.

Guest wrote:I guess being in the tire manufacturing industry for the last 22 years makes me ignorant to the ins and outs of how tires work and designed.Good luck to you all and may the force be with you.I can see you all are a bunch of lame tight wads who would rather spend your money on starwars figures for your bikes than maintain them with the right stuff.Hell half of you cant even spell, makes me understand why you put car tires on your bikes.SOMEONE PLEASE remove me from your member registry.I didnt know this site was for dumb asses.

And you are such a genius....you can't even use the space bar after periods.................

Don't come back! I don't believe you ever worked as a tire manufacture for over 22 years..Bwwhahahahaha.... After 22 years of wisdom in the tire industry all you can post is cut downs and star wars figures for you wisdom........YOU ARE A TROLL.....

....................bobby

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Tight wads?!? Hell my Michelin cost as much as the stock tire.
Added fairing, hard bags, 1800 rear wheel and a ton of other stuff...bet I've spent the bike's cost in parts/upgrades.

Tight wads my ass. Dumb ass?!? Nah, more like folks that see the world as more than in black and white.

Oh MYLANTA!!! I'm gonna go put the dunnie back on. I had no idea that the Grabber was made for a car. I've been dupped...

DocRawk wrote:Oh MYLANTA!!! I'm gonna go put the dunnie back on. I had no idea that the Grabber was made for a car. I've been dupped...

Hey Doc,

Bwwhahahahaha Thanks for the tip.....I just found out my tire is a "snow and rain" tire and I am riding it in the summer time, what was I thinking..........

.............bobby

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You mean that the Grabber that I just put on is wider than my stock dunnie? I've done it now, the increased traction and stability will surely be the death of me. I've modified my bike way beyond spec so I'm sure now that I'm going to die in a fiery crash. Oh whoa is me, I've gone and done something the manufacturer didn't count on and I'm sure I'll pay the ultimate price. Gimme a freakin break!

Troll clean up on aisle 9 is he gone yet?

Guest why hide behind anonymity , tell us your name and be a man.

He had a user name, but has ben deleted. I think it was "buds dad" or something like that.

Funny, he claims to be an expert. Hmmmm. I'm not an expert by no means, but I do think I have enough training and education and experience in how/why bikes work that I would know if something was hindering my bikes handling performance.

then again I only have 4000 miles on my grabber so time will tell.

George

Probley has 22yrs. of sweeping floors in a tire shop.

I guess running the "Force Machine" for 22 years makes you an expert at pretty much anything and everyone else an idiot! '' '' ' ''