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Post  Scotrod Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:37 pm

Found this on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur9nfBpMldQ

Not near enough information provided to determine what actaually happened.

Have you guys heard anything about it?

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Post  85V-TWIN Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:02 pm

i believe that its just that brand of tire by goodyear
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Post  Doc Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:12 pm

That is what happens when your Run Flat, runs flat..... Wink
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Post  Big Green Valley Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:08 pm

So, one Darkside mishap possibly as a result of driver error.

Hundreds of other Darksiders still operating with little to no problems.

I think I'll stay on the Darkside. It looks like the odds are still in my favor.
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Post  2wheeladdict Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:18 pm

Tire failures happen with MT also. This one incident doesn't change my mind about running a CT. Any tire will fail if not properly taken care of or if it loses air while riding.

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Post  Otis56 Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:37 pm

I cant run the volume here at work, so if anybody hears what caused the failure, pls pm me,,thanks

mark f

was that a low profile tire?
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Post  Rambler Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:14 pm

it looks like it was rubbing on something like the swingarm or shaft ?just my thought
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Post  Scotrod Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:52 pm

00 Doc wrote:That is what happens when your Run Flat, runs flat..... Wink

It's a Dunlop Winter 'xxxxx' 3D 'run flat' tire.

Yup, looks like his 'run flat' ran a little too far when flat! Very Happy

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Post  nodakbassmaster Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:19 pm

Scotrod wrote:
00 Doc wrote:That is what happens when your Run Flat, runs flat..... Wink

It's a Dunlop Winter 'xxxxx' 3D 'run flat' tire.

Yup, looks like his 'run flat' ran a little too far when flat! Very Happy

my thoughts exactly! :bball: affraid
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Post  smokey2255 Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:40 pm

why would this ass clown post a video with absolutely no pertinent information (Twin, pertinent means valueable, relative, important Very Happy Very Happy Just trying to help a brother out) ... He definately falls under troll heading. At least talk to the rider get his take on it instead of. See the tire this bike shop took off. Now I am wondering if this is not an advertising scheme for the dealership there. As much time was spent showing their logo as the tire.

JMHO, and I don't give a shit if .......... Rolling Eyes What a Face


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Post  85V-TWIN Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:57 pm

that video dont scare me lol.hell,on my first 750 back in the 80's,i had to run 30 or so miles on a straight flat mt at 40-55 mph.of course i had to slow way down in the curves,but it can be done lol.if i recall,isnt there a dunflop 404 mt that is failing on bikes and causing riders to go down ?at least thats what i heard.i'm not even the slightest bit worried about my ct.even if it does go flat on me,i allready have experience runnin on a flat bounce yall ride safe now ya hear Very Happy
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Post  Scotrod Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:32 pm

On the making of the video, I'm not sure how much information was available to the poster. As I take it, he was viewing a tire that the shop had previously removed from a Wing.

They probably keep it around as the official "So ya wanna run a CT, eh???" sales 'tool',,, used when anybody asks about runnin a CT. Probably convinces a lot of people to buy a MT instead,,,

I was hoping somebody here might have some firsthand knowlwedge of the tire, as in previous owner, what really happened, etc.

I do appreciate the diagnosis of 'looks like a runflat that ran flat',,, Makes sense to me. I have the Hydroedge on my VTX1800, and we don't have a 'run flat' DS option,,,so I never studied up on what it was, or how it 'works',,,

With the stiffer sidewalls of the run flat, I wonder if the Wing rider was fully aware that he was (potentially) riding on a flat?

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Post  Oldsmobility Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:13 am

You can see the tire is extremely worn down on the edges, so I'd imagine it was just a case of trying to ride on the tire too long. The guy probably looked at the tread depth in the middle and figured he could get a few more miles out of it, not realizing the cords were starting to show at the edges.

From what I've read, m/c tires are more prone to failure than car tires, in any application. I personally haven't experienced any m/c tire failures (knock on wood) but I've only got around 30k miles of experience. I do have a good deal of experience at a car tire shop though, and it's extremely rare to see a failure resulting from manufacturer defect. Nine times out of ten, underinflation is the culprit.
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Post  BigBoyinMS Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:02 pm

...and now it says the 'video was removed by the user'

I'm soooo disappointed!
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Post  Badmoon Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:04 pm

You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figgure it out. The best thing is the dude did not go down. Regardless I feel safer on the CT by far.
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Post  BigBoyinMS Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:30 pm

Badmoon wrote:You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figgure it out. The best thing is the dude did not go down. Regardless I feel safer on the CT by far.

I have tons more confidence in a CT over a MT. Much more grip. I can lock the rear brake on my Road Star that has an Avon Venom and I don't know it until the rear starts coming around. I tried to lock the rear on my Venture with a Kumho on it and it's squealing like a pig and grabbing HARD!
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Post  Badmoon Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:50 pm

The first time I jammed the breaks I smashed the boys. Since then I take it a little easier and am reassured that when I need em they will be there.
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Post  Burg_rider Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:30 pm

Video has been removed by the owner...too bad...I would have liked to see it. Nonetheless, still riding on the Darkside Cool
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Post  Darn Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:14 pm

Badmoon wrote:You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figgure it out. The best thing is the dude did not go down. Regardless I feel safer on the CT by far.

OK, now THAT'S FUNNY
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