Sealing rims
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3M 5200
Well I guess I'm just toooooo impatient. Sealed the rim with the 5200 and let it cure for 3 days. Put the first side of the tire on last night and it scraped the sealer off, so here I go again. I guess it is a good thing I found the 5200 in a 3 oz. tube at Walmart. For everyone else you can find 3M 5200 marine sealer in the sporting goods/boating section at Wally World, it is around $5. Wayne, how much would you say you use per wheel? Maybe I'm just not putting enough onto the rim.
David
David
daves1300s- Number of posts: 59
Age: 51
Location: Stanley, NC
Registration date: 2008-04-24
Re: Sealing rims
I use about 2/3 of a tube to do a rim.
Been puting the rubber tube saver in to help protect the 5200. You cant see the spoke nipples after im done, You want it to stick to the side a little to get the good seal. and you want to put it one even for balanceing reasons.
You can probley patch the 5200 that you riped.
And did you scuff up the rim a little to get it to stick better?
They make plastic putty knifes, and you can form it to the middle of your rim, useing a grinder or knife and it works great for getting it even all the way around.
I never knew you could buy it in such small tubes, After you are done and it is cured, it works like a big rubber band that sticks to your rim. You do have to be carefully with the tire spoons when mounting tire. Go slow and take you time when mounting tire, or dismounting.
I will be out of town for the weekend, dont know If im leaveing today or tomorrow, but if you have any more questionss you can PM me.
Good luck
Been puting the rubber tube saver in to help protect the 5200. You cant see the spoke nipples after im done, You want it to stick to the side a little to get the good seal. and you want to put it one even for balanceing reasons.
You can probley patch the 5200 that you riped.
And did you scuff up the rim a little to get it to stick better?
They make plastic putty knifes, and you can form it to the middle of your rim, useing a grinder or knife and it works great for getting it even all the way around.
I never knew you could buy it in such small tubes, After you are done and it is cured, it works like a big rubber band that sticks to your rim. You do have to be carefully with the tire spoons when mounting tire. Go slow and take you time when mounting tire, or dismounting.
I will be out of town for the weekend, dont know If im leaveing today or tomorrow, but if you have any more questionss you can PM me.
Good luck
wayne- Number of posts: 487
Age: 58
Location: Roseburg OR.
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Re: Sealing rims
New here -
Learning from you guys. My 1300C has OEM Mag wheels. Must the hub be sealed on this rim to b/4 mounting the 205?
I have been lurking around this site for a few weeks now and just completed the 19 page post.
Looking forward to your response.
Scott
Learning from you guys. My 1300C has OEM Mag wheels. Must the hub be sealed on this rim to b/4 mounting the 205?
I have been lurking around this site for a few weeks now and just completed the 19 page post.
Looking forward to your response.
Scott
sseibert3- Number of posts: 3
Age: 58
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Registration date: 2008-06-05
Re: Sealing rims
No , The 1300C doesn't need any sealent , but i cleaned mine with steel wool and then soap and water before i started the install on my stock rim. good luck and welcome to the best forum on the net.
Horse
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horseman8m- Number of posts: 1333
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Re: Sealing rims
sseibert,
Welcome to the site. What "horse" said. Only the the spoke rims need to be sealed to go tubeless on the darkside. The C rims or mags DO NOT need to be sealed.
What tire do you plan on going with???????
.................bobby
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Welcome to the site. What "horse" said. Only the the spoke rims need to be sealed to go tubeless on the darkside. The C rims or mags DO NOT need to be sealed.
What tire do you plan on going with???????
.................bobby
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Re: Sealing rims
Hi Bobby -
Thank you for your input.
I'm not sure. I'm thinking the 205/70R15. I like the idea of a larger tire that will decrease rpms on the road. I have mixed feelings about the tread as shown in the thread. I like the knobby but also the directional. Any thoughts would be appreciated
It apprears that Dave may have a bent rim that is causing the wobble. He feels Cycle World in Tacoma bent it but has no way to prove it. He has suggested I contact Jon for mounting the tire.
I will advise my direction.
Thank you,
Scott
Thank you for your input.
I'm not sure. I'm thinking the 205/70R15. I like the idea of a larger tire that will decrease rpms on the road. I have mixed feelings about the tread as shown in the thread. I like the knobby but also the directional. Any thoughts would be appreciated
It apprears that Dave may have a bent rim that is causing the wobble. He feels Cycle World in Tacoma bent it but has no way to prove it. He has suggested I contact Jon for mounting the tire.
I will advise my direction.
Thank you,
Scott
sseibert3- Number of posts: 3
Age: 58
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Registration date: 2008-06-05
Re: Sealing rims
sseibert3 wrote:Hi Bobby -
Thank you for your input.
I'm not sure. I'm thinking the 205/70R15. I like the idea of a larger tire that will decrease rpms on the road. I have mixed feelings about the tread as shown in the thread. I like the knobby but also the directional. Any thoughts would be appreciated
It apprears that Dave may have a bent rim that is causing the wobble. He feels Cycle World in Tacoma bent it but has no way to prove it. He has suggested I contact Jon for mounting the tire.
I will advise my direction.
Thank you,
Scott
Scott,
I am running the 205/65/15 Douglas which is a non-directional tire and is my third darkside. My first and second car tires were a 165/80/15 VW tire and it also was a non-directional tire with no issues what so ever. You can't feel any difference in turning either way if that was you are concerned about? A lot of guys on here started with the 165's first and have had no issues what so ever with handling, ride, comfort, or grip compared to a motorcycle tire. It will smoke a motorcycle tire in it's handling and longevity any day of the weak.
So really what I am saying other than looks....I don't feel the uni-directional over the non-directional is a selling point one way or the other.
I think Dave is right.....because NO ONE else has had that issue before or since.
..........................bobby
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Last edited by twin1300 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:23 pm; edited 1 time in total
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twin1300- Admin

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Re: Sealing rims
Thanx Bobby -
I guess the "look" will determine the design. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Knobby or ???
Thanks again for your input.
I guess the "look" will determine the design. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Knobby or ???
Thanks again for your input.
sseibert3- Number of posts: 3
Age: 58
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Registration date: 2008-06-05
Re: Sealing rims
I did have problems with high speed wobble, but that was due to a peice of firewood that I hit, it bent the rim. everyones talking about getting the front tire off the ground, hell Ive had both off the ground at the same time
It launched me pretty good, wife thought I was going down, guess I fouled her, she was seeing $$$$, life insurance I think

Now that I think of it, he may want to make sure the thre has beaded all the way.
Now that I think of it, he may want to make sure the thre has beaded all the way.
wayne- Number of posts: 487
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Location: Roseburg OR.
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Re: Sealing rims
Has anyone thought of trying Rhino liner? I have used that stuff for just about everything imaginable.
Joel
Joel
guitstik- Number of posts: 7
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Registration date: 2008-08-07
Re: Sealing rims
guitstik wrote:Has anyone thought of trying Rhino liner? I have used that stuff for just about everything imaginable.
Joel
Good idea, just run electrical tape over the ends of the spokes and then spray with Rhino liner.
That way if you ever have to adjust the spokes you can.
good luck,
Horse
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Nexen CP641 , 215 65R 15 on a stock rim
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horseman8m- Number of posts: 1333
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Re: Sealing rims
I seen the boy's on occ sealing a rim here a while back. They were using a 3m product and it was black, but I could not get any details. They just made a putty knife from cardboard to spread it. I guess it held, or they said it did anyway 
papa- Number of posts: 85
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Re: Sealing rims
Just a bump so some guys can find the write up. 
wayne- Number of posts: 487
Age: 58
Location: Roseburg OR.
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Re: Sealing rims
papa wrote:I seen the boy's on occ sealing a rim here a while back. They were using a 3m product and it was black, but I could not get any details. They just made a putty knife from cardboard to spread it. I guess it held, or they said it did anyway
Just saw this, they must have read my write up and copied it.
Black works good to, the las 4 rims I did were with the black 5200. Same stuff, just a diferant flavor.
wayne- Number of posts: 487
Age: 58
Location: Roseburg OR.
Registration date: 2007-12-18
Re: Sealing rims
I worked for a few years at Pensacola shipyard. We used 5200 like Toilet Paper (not for toilet paper
) Anyway, if I remember right it did need moisture to cure, but when it cured it was there for good. We glued down a center console one time with it and then took our crane and picked the whole boat up (29') by the center Console trying to get it off. Tough stuff.

flyingstick- Number of posts: 17
Location: Cantonment, Fl.
Registration date: 2009-05-13
Re: Sealing rims
Dont need moisture, infact the less humid the better, and warmer temps.
You can get it off, at the shipyards here on the coast, they use it for sealant around the shafts underwater and when they need to remove it, they heat it up and it pops out, but I dont think you want to get a rim that hot.
You can get it off, but it takes a little work.
It works like a big rubber band inside the rim that sticks.
You can get it off, at the shipyards here on the coast, they use it for sealant around the shafts underwater and when they need to remove it, they heat it up and it pops out, but I dont think you want to get a rim that hot.
You can get it off, but it takes a little work.
It works like a big rubber band inside the rim that sticks.
wayne- Number of posts: 487
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Re: Sealing rims
Bump
wayne- Number of posts: 487
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Re: Sealing rims
Another bump for some guys.
Someone needs to make this a sticky thread.

Someone needs to make this a sticky thread.
wayne- Number of posts: 487
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Re: Sealing rims
sticky , sticky, sticky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Mr. 215 ,,, 2006 VTX 1300C candy black cherry
Nexen CP641 , 215 65R 15 on a stock rim
MAY the Horse be with you young Flywalker



horseman8m- Number of posts: 1333
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Re: Sealing rims
And yet another BUMP
Sticky Sticky Sticky

Sticky Sticky Sticky
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