First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

View previous topic View next topic Go down

First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  madhatter4119 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:40 pm

Hi All...I was wondering if any one put a Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 on the rear of a 03 VTX 1800(S)...I have mag wheels on my 03 1800(S)...It had spoke wheel...Not a fan of spoke wheels...Putting this CT was a beast to put on...Had to remove final drive...needed the oil changed any way...But still...getting the brake cal back on was a job...Anybody had any issue with riding two up...any grinding need done or such...????

    Also , Let say I like it after a brief break in period...What 18" CT would be good for my front...I haven't rode it yet...got to tighten some exhaust bolts and stuff...but calling for rain tomorrow...Crap...Once I figure the sweet spot for air...I would like to do the front as well...any info would be a great help...Thanks for all the info that made me give this a shot...I hope this CT works for my S-Model without me pulling it off and grinding some spots down or going to another tire...Later

madhatter4119

Number of posts : 9
Location : Maryland
Registration date : 2015-03-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:09 pm

only the BatPod or a trike should run a CT on the front IMHO Smile
if you're thinking DoubleDark then mount a rear MT on the front, reverse rotation
avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  madhatter4119 on Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:11 pm

thanks...but I'm not sure what you mean...So I shouldn't think about going to a CT on the front...??? I should find a rear MT and mount it on my front 18" mag rim...but mount it in reverse...why backwards
/ reverse when I mount it ??

madhatter4119

Number of posts : 9
Location : Maryland
Registration date : 2015-03-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:56 am

The MC tire is designed for rotational forces, the carcass layers in the rear predominantly have the driving force of the rim rotating forward, essentially pulling the layers together. If you put the rear tire backwards on the rear rim, those forces are then trying to push the layers appart. The front wheel predominantly has the braking force, applying the opposite force to it's tire, thus a rear on the front mounts backwards.
This was taught to me 25 years ago in a MC mechanics course, and if it's the Gospel truth or not I don't know for sure, but tire tech has developed a lot since then. My own front tire was installed backwards by the previous owner, and when I asked the manufacturer about it was told that unless I was racing I likely wouldn't notice an issue. 10K later - no issue. So I'm not personally convinced that mountimg the rear in reverse rotatuon makes a big difference anymore, but it is the rule of thumb for sure. When I mount my own in a few weeks, I will put it on in reverse. Smile
The one thing to be very sure of with MC tires to NOT run them under-inflated. Low tire pressure causes excessive heat = premature wear and possible failure.
avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  madhatter4119 on Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:00 am


Thanks...that makes a lot of sense...I think I'll stick with the rule of thumb...What I found is you don't really put a car tire on the front rim...you put a rear motorcycle tire on the front...Why or how is that
going double darkside...??? Lol

madhatter4119

Number of posts : 9
Location : Maryland
Registration date : 2015-03-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:22 pm

Double Darkside I think just because it's not normal! LOL
Main reason being for longer tread life. MC rear tires typically have thicker tread depth and it takes more miles to wear through it. Smile
avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  madhatter4119 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:43 pm



Well...,took that Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 out for a test ride today under highway speeds...when I
got to 85 mph I got a severe wobble...WallyWorld charge me to balance it...but I don't put much faith in the people there...it only has one weight on the rim...really disappointed...hope someone has an idea on what I need to do...otherwise my spoke rim and tire has to go back on...my air pressure is 40 psi on the CT...I do a lot of beltway driving at 80 to 90 mph at times...Thanks

madhatter4119

Number of posts : 9
Location : Maryland
Registration date : 2015-03-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:02 pm

Try adjusting your air pressure 2lbs at a time, I've read of success anywhere from 28 to 42. Also depends on the type of tire, weight of the bike and weight proportions (any saddlebags or passengers adds to the rear).
avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:05 pm

Also be sure to start with the proper psi in the front tire, to be sure ;-)
avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  madhatter4119 on Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:17 am

Your advice is rather vague...what is the correct tire pressure...front or rear...it's like the best oil to use...some like their tires at 36 to 42 psi...others use one amount in the front and another for the rear...should I put 42 psi in each tire and remove 2 psi until I find the sweet spot...I'm not sure on the best way to proceed...should I start with low pressure in both tires and increase air until I find the sweet spot...should I use some Ride On or dyna beads and remove the lead weight that's on the rim that walmart put on it when they mounted the tire...? Thanks

madhatter4119

Number of posts : 9
Location : Maryland
Registration date : 2015-03-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  rrounds on Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:22 pm

I run 40 to 42 psi up front. Now to the rear, the wobble can come from low air pressure so up it 3 to 7 psi and see if the wobble is less, more or the same. If its less then you will have to run the higher pressure for 500 miles and then go down by 2lbs till the wobble comes back. Then raise the pressure a couple of pounds and call it a day. My bike gets a wobble when the air pressure gets low so I wait till it gets the wobble then add 3 psi, have to do this twice a year(I ride all year).  Some tires have a wobble no matter what you do.

ROD

rrounds

Number of posts : 256
Age : 62
Location : Sacramento, CA
Registration date : 2008-06-06

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:18 pm

Sorry, didn't intend to sound vague. Smile

Maximum pressure at full load is stamped on the side of the tire, start there or a little higher and let it out 2 psi at a time as you try each stage for the feel.

avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  madhatter4119 on Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:14 pm


ROD...I'm sorry...death wobble at 85mph is unacceptable...If This Nexen N5000 doesn't run without a high speed wobble...Then my days as a darksider will be brief...Didn't have a death wobble before the
switch...Should I spend money on dyna beads or ride on...Would like to hear from those that do or didn't need that stuff...also does anyone have those lead weights on there mag 16" rim with a CT...Thanks

madhatter4119

Number of posts : 9
Location : Maryland
Registration date : 2015-03-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  rossmond on Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:32 pm

could be cause it is h rated and or has a week sidewall. ,i'm running a goodyear triple tread (awesome tire) 205/60/16 v rated, on my v star 1300 went over 100 on a turn with no prob,,,110 on straights ,, 32psi (warm) and yes,i had a custom mc shop mount mine,he used the stick on weights on my mag wheel.
avatar
rossmond

Number of posts : 32
Location : florida
Registration date : 2014-09-05

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  VTX_Thor on Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:19 pm

I static balanced my own with lead weights on the mag rim. Don't have any pics handy but built a little homemade balancer very much like this one:


Just find the heavy spot (always goes to the bottom) and add weights to the light (goes to the top) until you can position the wheel anywhere without it rotating. thumbup
avatar
VTX_Thor

Number of posts : 13
Age : 47
Location : Grande Prairie, Canada
Registration date : 2015-06-12

Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  Guest on Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:56 pm

I too like the GY TT 205-60-16. 32 in rear and 40 up front. Usually no weights are required on the back tire. Good luck.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: First Darkside tire...Nexen N5000 205/60R/16 0n 03 VTX 1800(S)

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum