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1300 FD with MICHELIN 205/55/16

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Post  daninflag Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:45 am

I have an 07 1800T, and have A 1300 FD to put in along with the Michelin Hydroedge 205/55/16. I have never taken off the rear tire, has only 8800 miles. My question is, how do I do this by myself. I have a sears jack and all the necessary tools. Do I leave the final with the tire and re-install the same way or put in the final first, then the tire? Any and all help is welcomed!!! Shrug

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Post  twin1300 Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:53 am

daninflag wrote:I have an 07 1800T, and have A 1300 FD to put in along with the Michelin Hydroedge 205/55/16. I have never taken off the rear tire, has only 8800 miles. My question is, how do I do this by myself. I have a sears jack and all the necessary tools. Do I leave the final with the tire and re-install the same way or put in the final first, then the tire? Any and all help is welcomed!!! Shrug

Leave you final drive alone!!!! Just remove remove the caliper, and then the axle and it should slip out. Of course you should have it on the bike jack while doing this. It will be a tight fit for sure, but it will slide out.



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Post  Doc Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:59 pm

I don't think Bobby read your post right. Shrug

You want to change your 1800 drive for a 1300 drive when you put your HydroEdge on, right?
I've not done an 1800T, but I have done a 1300R and I think they are close.
Put your bike up on a jack or stand and remove the rear wheel.
You will have to unbolt your caliper and hang it up out of the way. You might also have to remove your lower muffler mounting bolt to give yourself some more room. Unbolt the axle nut and pull the axle out, the wheel should drop down and you can wiggle it out. Change out your final drive with the wheel off now. Don't forget to lube up the splines with the Honda Moly Lube. Several people have reported a slight rubbing on the drive shaft with this tire. You might consider a few taps with a hammer to give yourself enough clearance in that area. Get your HydroEdge mounted and stuff it up in there and reinstall the axle and caliper. Install your rear muffler bolt 180 degrees around for more clearance.
Don't forget balancing, I use Dynabeads, 3 oz will do it. thumbup

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Post  daninflag Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:27 pm

Soundz quite easy, wont have any one to help, sounds like raising and lowering the jack will do. My biggest fear is having to modify things, but with this lower profile tire Im hoping for the best. My wife said she will help, but she wont be help just a hinderance. I work on Heavy Equiptment all day so this should be a snap. Will let you know when I pull the trigger, should be soon, maybe friday even. Thanx a bunch, Dan Brown

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Post  John Donovan Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:43 pm

Curious as to what difference between the 13 and the 18 final drive Question

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Post  daninflag Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:15 pm

THE 1300 FINAL HAS A 2.8 GEAR RATIO AND THE 1800 FINAL HAS A 3.1 RATIO
What Im looking to do here is put a smaller tire on to lower the rear of the bike, yet maintaining the right gear ratio so my speedo reads properly.
I have a 29" inseem and want better footing, lowering will do that. Ive tried shorter shocks, didnt work for me. Had to set on 5, the ride was to stiff, and would bottom out at lower settings.
Oh, and have wanted to go Darkside, and now that I need tires, Im doing it!!!

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Post  daninflag Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:38 pm

Well its a done deal! Just came back from a 10 minute ride, so far feels weird, turns are real strange, dont think I like this. Im running 36psi to start. I realize I need to break the tire in, and get used to the feel. I will report back when I have 100 or more miles. No problems on the install, no help needed. Tire went on the rim just like a motorcycle tire, no probs. Drivetube clearance about 1/4", swingarm clearance 1/2" or so. I did flip the exaust bolts around, but that was it. It did lower the bike some, but not as much as I had expected. Will have pics next post. yeah

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Post  Larry Simpson Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:09 pm

The darkside is not for everyone,mindset has a lot to do with it. lol!
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Post  twin1300 Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:40 pm

daninflag wrote:Well its a done deal! Just came back from a 10 minute ride, so far feels weird, turns are real strange, dont think I like this. Im running 36psi to start. I realize I need to break the tire in, and get used to the feel. I will report back when I have 100 or more miles. No problems on the install, no help needed. Tire went on the rim just like a motorcycle tire, no probs. Drivetube clearance about 1/4", swingarm clearance 1/2" or so. I did flip the exaust bolts around, but that was it. It did lower the bike some, but not as much as I had expected. Will have pics next post. yeah

Mentally....your mind has to forget it's a car tire and trust it!!! If you cannot do a burnout or it's very hard to do...then you have traction! With most people it's a mental problem and hardly a tire problem.

Just give it a couple hundred miles and go up on the pressure first and then ride the heck out of it. Then make your decision.


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Post  daninflag Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:09 pm

At 40psi I had a bad wobble at low speed (20mph) dropped the pressure to 34 (2 lb at a time test rides) feels good, but I think it could be better, perhaps I should wait till the tire is broken in?

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Post  vtxokie1 Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:57 am

Put a hundred miles on it at least, taking the corners and curves conservatively at first. Then gradually increase your speed in the curves to whatever makes you comfortable. It takes a few hundred miles to start to trust the tire but once you accept the fact that it has more traction in the curves than any MC you've ever run, then You'll be sportin the biggest sh*& eatin grin you've ever had on your face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thumbup

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