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Post  timo482 on Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:50 pm

coker now has a 500 r 16 tire - ive got one mounted on a 3.5" x 16" rim and its 5.4" wide!

that will fit 2007 and 2008 bikes with zero problems and it looks really nice.

im going to get another one and mount it on a 3" rim - the 130 tires are 5.3" wide - so theoretically a half inch smaller rim will yield a quarter inch smaller tire & that will get it on the older bikes & in the hd sidecar fender. the diameter appears to be within a quarter inch of stock for the stock 140 tire. tread is 4.4" wide & the tire is load rated at 80H so 900 plus pounds. the tire has about 3/8" of tread rubber. its a brand new run of tires USA produced and there is zero data on durability at this point in time.

the tire is listed at coker for 4" to 5" rim - looks very even and was not difficult to seat on 3.5" rim - 3" rim may or may not be a issue. so this tire should also work on the newer 16" wheels that are in the in-between sizes. and it "may" work on the 3" rims

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Post  DaMonk47 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:55 am

Think that will fit an 07 FLH?

What was the cost and where did you get it?

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Post  timo482 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:24 am

I have it on a 07 ultra. It is mounted on a 3.5" rim but it looks like it would sqeeze onto a 3" rim. It wants a 4" rim & would still fit the bike on one. Mounted its 5.4" wide on the 3.5" rim. I wont know till fall how it wears, but it has lots of tread.

Get it from coker tire - www.cokertire.com

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Post  quadancer on Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:27 pm

since the aspect ratio isn't posted, can you tell me how tall it is? That way I can compare it to my Vredestein. Dan and I are working on finding other 175's too, in the thread on this forum titled "End of the Comtrac".
Edit": I checked the Coker site and I see this is a bias ply tire - and that, as far as I know is untested on bikes. The next one up would be the 550R16, but it's cross section is 5.9" - too wide for us 175 users.
The Firestone blackwall bias has nice numbers:
Overall diameter: 26.5"
Help item Cross section: 5.26"
Help item Tread width: 3.75"
Help item Load capacity: 1070lbs @ 32 psi
Help item Rec. rim width: 3.5--4.5

The Exelsior has a rather antique looking tread pattern, but:
Overall diameter: 26"
Help item Cross section: 4.12"
Help item Tread width: 3.62"
Help item Rec. rim width: 3.5--4.5
Tube type: Requires Tube
Price:
$107
But again, they're bias.
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Post  timo482 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:14 pm

you are looking in the right place on cokers site - but the site is BUSTED - they DO make a 500r16 steel radial - its so close in dia to my stock tire that i cant see the difference and on a 3.5" rim its narrower than a stock 07 tire but still a tiny bit wider than the old 130...

http://store.cokertire.com/tire-brands/cars-trucks/excelsior/500r16-excelsior-stahl-sport-radial.html

the spec says its for a 4" rim - i went with a 3.5" rim so that if i am in the boonies with a blow out a stock 130 will still fit.

however now that its mounted - i think it could be mounted on a 3" rim - i have not tried it. it is 5.4" wide on the 3.5" rim

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Post  timo482 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:12 pm

rode 200 miles today on the 500r16 steel radial tire - its really really nice

no vibration - runs perfectly true - smooth - 200 miles did not take the nubs off

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Post  eidolon on Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:34 pm

Hi timo,

You are running the Exelsior, correct?

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Post  timo482 on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:11 am

the excelsior steel radial, not the bias, yes

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Post  quadancer on Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:02 am

I'm still hunting for something else - I don't like the diameter of 25". For me, that would gear me DOWN from stock, and I'm loving the gear UP with the Vredestein. I'm a cruiser and don't want the engine screaming all over the south USA.
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Post  Dan Koich on Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:14 pm

I looked at this tire earlier and discounted it for two reasons. I thought the diameter was too far off and would adversely affect the speedometer too much (on my Heritage Softail FLSTC) and the reviews on both the Excelsior (and the comparable Dunlop) by buyers who used it on cars, were not good. People reported severe sidewall cracking resulting in very short tire life. I hope you do not have these problems. Please do keep us posted on the durability of this tire. I've not seen any other threads describing it's use on a cycle. If there is a thread would you mind showing me where it is. Thanks.

I'm going to research the Austone 175R16 some more tomorrow and see what the on-line dealers have found about any other 175's.

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Post  quadancer on Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:47 am

I had no luck yet- Tires by Web can't find any 175 that anyone will ship - and the Austone seems to be the only choice, but we have no reviews on it yet.
ANY tire you get, you should check the date on it. Anything over 5-6 years old is decrepit.
My speedo is dead on with the Vredestein, but will then read a little slow with the Austone, but not by much.
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Post  smith8833 on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:59 pm

timo482
How did you get it to seat the bead!!!

I got one side to seat with no problem the other side has been fighting me all day!!!! The stupid thing is the bead locks against the shoulder of the rim and SEALS, it hoolds air just fine. But it is NOT seated correctly!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Any help would be great??


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Post  SugsPa on Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:19 am

smith8833,

Did you get the bead to seat? What model HD are you trying to mount it on ?

Thanks,

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Post  timo482 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:06 am

mine is mounted on a spoke rim - the bead lock is not as high as the cast ones are.

he also used a bike tire machine - and worked the bead a bit & added more lube and it popped on

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Post  smith8833 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:04 pm

Finally got it seated cheers cheers

It went onto a cast wheel and yes the problem was that little ridge!!!

I Soaped the daylights out of it and placed it in the middle of the driveway, with a lock on chuck, then discovered that the gauge on the air compressor was not working affraid So I just cracked the valve a little at a time!! They both seated below 100psi. Exactly what, I have no idea.

The bike is a 2007 Sportster with a sidecar. There is plenty of room under there for it, I now think I can get a wider tire on it??????? Which means a more mainstream tire! Will see!

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Post  smith8833 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:09 pm

SugsPa,
You a firefighter??

Retired two years ago, city of 80,000+

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Post  RobSATX on Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:16 pm

Got a 550R 16 Coker to fit my 05 Road King. It's the Stahl sport radial on a 3"rim. slightly taller than stock tire, same clearances. looks like a MC blackwall from the side. From the rear it looks pretty cool. seated at 65 psi.


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Post  SugsPa on Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:05 am

smith8833,

Yes, an ERT member at a plant and a paid-on-call fireman/emt at home.

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Post  smith8833 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:46 pm

Just returned from a 1747 mile trip on the Coker 500r16. No problems!! A little more center wear so I will lower to 25psi from the 30 and see what happens.
We run a heavy sidecar rig and were in MANY miles of twisties and showed no sidewall problems.
Next step..... time and distance!!!! yeah

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Post  timo482 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:52 pm

which bike was this? what was the original tire size & what size wheel are you running?

i need a new sidecar tire soon and i "think" the 500r16 will fit in the fender......

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Post  smith8833 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:41 pm

Harley sportster 2007, 150/90/16, cast aluminum stock rim. This is the rear wheel not the sidecar. The sidecar has a 15" auto rim.

I use the block style sidecar tires on the Ural 19" rims, duro (I believe) and the block K, any of Urals recomendations work well.

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Post  smith8833 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:48 pm

My fender on the sidecar is a harley fender(for the bigger bikes) with the 15" tire in it. It is much wider than the Coker tire!!

If you have a 16 MC rim on the sidecar it should work just fine!!

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Post  smith8833 on Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:40 pm

Don't know if anyone is still paying attention to this but! I just removed the coker 500r16 from my sportster, with 4000 miles on it the tire has no tread left and was beginin to slip on wet roads.
It did a great job and I had no problems with it.
Just wish it would have lasted longer for the price.

I just installed a 175 60 16 formoza it cleared everything, had to remove the plastic gurad though. It is about 1/4" from the belt and mounted easily.
Got the tire from Diamond back tires www.dbtires.com

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Post  twin1300 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:29 am

smith8833 wrote:Don't know if anyone is still paying attention to this but! I just removed the coker 500r16 from my sportster, with 4000 miles on it the tire has no tread left and was beginin to slip on wet roads.
It did a great job and I had no problems with it.
Just wish it would have lasted longer for the price.

I just installed a 175 60 16 formoza it cleared everything, had to remove the plastic gurad though. It is about 1/4" from the belt and mounted easily.
Got the tire from Diamond back tires www.dbtires.com

Thanks for the update!!! The Coker tire is definitely NOT the way to go then if you could only get 4000 miles out of it. Please keep us updated and thanks for posting and helping others out.


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Post  Dan Koich on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:12 pm

Only 4000 miles on a tire that cost over $200. Damn poor performance. Wadaya suppose happened?

I just found more specs on the Federal Formoza FD2 in 175-60R-16 and see that it too is a small diameter tire. Only 24.3 inches. So I don't like it either for my (already low) Heritage.

Federals Ecovan ER01 is a 26.3 in diameter in 175-75r-16, but I haven't found a dealer for it either.

The search continues. I see that the guys on the goldwing thread are also searching for a replacement for the Vredestein Comtrac in 175mm.

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