INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
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Larry Simpson
quadancer
Doc
Dan Koich
NIGHTHAWK
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INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
last week took my kumho 215 45 18 to my local shop. They didn't want to mount it because it was too big. After researching this site again. It was the same tire. So I called them back and asked
them to at least try to put it on. I told them if it didn't fit I would pay for the labor to make the change. At that point they said they would give it a shot. I guess they didn't want to not be able to
mount the tire and not get paid. So thursday I'll take it in and we'll give it a shot.
Wish me luck
them to at least try to put it on. I told them if it didn't fit I would pay for the labor to make the change. At that point they said they would give it a shot. I guess they didn't want to not be able to
mount the tire and not get paid. So thursday I'll take it in and we'll give it a shot.
Wish me luck
NIGHTHAWK- Number of posts : 3
Location : Sunny florida
Registration date : 2011-10-25
Kumho tire
Aren't Kumho's also on that list of tires not to use because they blow up while being mounted?
Dan Koich- Number of posts : 90
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
Dan Koich wrote:Aren't Kumho's also on that list of tires not to use because they blow up while being mounted?
Dan, just where is this list of tires that blow up???? I've been around here for 5 years and have never heard of such a thing.
I have heard of individuals having difficulty mounting a brand of tire in a unique and individual situation, but to blatantly label a brand of tire as one not to use because it "blows up" is ridiculous. Kumho makes a fine tire and I know of many Goldwing riders that have mounted Kumhos without any difficulty.
Doc- Admin
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
I'm absolutely sure that somewhere on this forum I read that there are 3 brands of tires that are not recommended because they have required so much air pressure to seat the bead that they explode while being mounted. Yokohama, Kumho and a third brand that I can't recall. I thought the list is in a sticky in the Motorcycle Tech thread, but I looked and didn't find it. Then I had to leave home and quit looking, and I just now got home. I am not joking. I read this, maybe it was on the Delphi forum, but I don't think so. I'm not trying to slam any brand of tire, just trying to help a newer reader out with info that others have posted previously.
Dan Koich- Number of posts : 90
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Location : Eau Claire, WI
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
I remember that. We lost that page when someone reconfigured the link. I can't recall the third brand either. Toyo? Maybe not.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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re interesting development
I also remember a bad tire list but don't remember which ones were on it
Larry Simpson- Number of posts : 1007
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I do remember noticing they were all mounting blowout problems, not any roadworthy issues. I'd sure hate to buy a, say, Jokeyamama tire and explode the sidewall and not be able to get money back.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
My point was just because someone had a blow out problem mounting a brand "A" tire on a "X" model rim IT IS NOT a rational reason to put brand "A" tire on a list that you should not use.
There is no such thing as a bad tire, but it is not a one size fits all proposition, there may be tires that shouldn't be used in specific situations, such as certain sizes on specific bikes, but you can't logically say because you had trouble mounting a brand of tire on your specific bike that that tire shouldn't be used for a Darkside application.
I know for a fact that a Kumho 195/55/16 Ectasa will mount very easily on a Goldwing 1800 rim, and is a very popular tire with Goldwingers, and riders are getting more that 10,000 hard riding miles out of them. I have also seen Kumho's used on a VTX.
Yet you want to put the Kumho on a list of not recommended tires????
One problem I have seen is people wanting the widest tire they can get, and it uses a short stiff sidewall and they are not able to get the bead into the well of the rim properly and end up damaging the bead when mounting the tire. They see this damage when they go to seat the bead and the air pressure causes the bead to rupture.
Is this a reason to put a tire on a list of recommended not to use?
I think this is more of a situation to put the size of the tire on a list of not recommended for that particular rim to be installed by that particular installer...
You may have read on the internet somewhere and there may have been a link on this forum to it, but there is not a blanket not-recommended list on brands of tires to not use because they explode that is valid.
There is no such thing as a bad tire, but it is not a one size fits all proposition, there may be tires that shouldn't be used in specific situations, such as certain sizes on specific bikes, but you can't logically say because you had trouble mounting a brand of tire on your specific bike that that tire shouldn't be used for a Darkside application.
I know for a fact that a Kumho 195/55/16 Ectasa will mount very easily on a Goldwing 1800 rim, and is a very popular tire with Goldwingers, and riders are getting more that 10,000 hard riding miles out of them. I have also seen Kumho's used on a VTX.
Yet you want to put the Kumho on a list of not recommended tires????
One problem I have seen is people wanting the widest tire they can get, and it uses a short stiff sidewall and they are not able to get the bead into the well of the rim properly and end up damaging the bead when mounting the tire. They see this damage when they go to seat the bead and the air pressure causes the bead to rupture.
Is this a reason to put a tire on a list of recommended not to use?
I think this is more of a situation to put the size of the tire on a list of not recommended for that particular rim to be installed by that particular installer...
You may have read on the internet somewhere and there may have been a link on this forum to it, but there is not a blanket not-recommended list on brands of tires to not use because they explode that is valid.
Doc- Admin
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
I have a Yokahama tire on my ride and never had a bit of trouble mounting it.
Jerry
Jerry
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
I run a kuhmo 165/80/15, tried to have a wider tire also a kuhmo mounted but even after seriously high pressure and left overnight in a cage the bead still failed to seat. I stayed with the 165/80/15 for that reason and that it is very close to the width of the stock tires put on. I've no worries running this tire. It's got a bit over 9,000 miles on it and shows little to no wear.
Otis56- Number of posts : 346
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Hey, it gets really dissapointing after that...you get so used to seeing a new tire back there for so long, once it starts to show wear, you begin to think;
"Oh NO, it's like a BIKE TIRE NOW..." until you realize that you've been thinking that for the last 5000 miles of it's third life...
"Oh NO, it's like a BIKE TIRE NOW..." until you realize that you've been thinking that for the last 5000 miles of it's third life...
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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Location : Acworth, Ga.
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Mounting and bead seating
I just had my 215/45/18 Hankook mounted with zero issues. I brought a can of dry lube (maybe silicone) to spray around the beads since I used balance beads and did not want to use tire soap and water, the tire slipped on the rim and beaded up around 20 psi.
It worked really well and the ct shop was impressed at how easy it all worked with the spray.
It worked really well and the ct shop was impressed at how easy it all worked with the spray.
Kenzo- Number of posts : 6
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Registration date : 2012-12-01
Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
Kenzo wrote:I just had my 215/45/18 Hankook mounted with zero issues. I brought a can of dry lube (maybe silicone) to spray around the beads since I used balance beads and did not want to use tire soap and water, the tire slipped on the rim and beaded up around 20 psi.
It worked really well and the ct shop was impressed at how easy it all worked with the spray.
Can you tell us who makes the dry lube and what its called?
Sounds like it worked good and it doesn't leave any wet stuff behind.
ROD
rrounds- Number of posts : 256
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Location : Sacramento, CA
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Re: INTERESTING DEVELOPEMENT
I've used the silicone-based tire shine spray. Slippery stuff, and gets absorbed by the tire. I have a can of dry lube in the shop from
DuPont supposedly is Teflon. I would not use graphite based dry lubes because of the messy look it leaves. Hate it when I have to
paint a door and someone used that on the hinges. Uck.
DuPont supposedly is Teflon. I would not use graphite based dry lubes because of the messy look it leaves. Hate it when I have to
paint a door and someone used that on the hinges. Uck.
quadancer- Number of posts : 1245
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Location : Acworth, Ga.
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