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Forenza 175/60-16 on GL 1500

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Post  mikeyrx Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:05 pm

Been lurking, now my turn to post. Received a 175/60-16 Forenza from Don H. on the GWWRA board. (Don if you're here, the tire looks great-many thanks) Mounted it tonight. An easy job, probably didnt take 15 minutes after I figured out that using a big C clamp to keep the dropped in beads together would make it easy. Beads popped out after a couple of cycles of air and some spotting with murphy's oil soap on q-tip. Keeping it minimal for Dynabeads. Looks good, and eyeballing with a square looks like its exactly the same width as the metzler 880 I have on it now. Have the goldwing in the basement and have the plastic pulled off the back. Have friday off, and will pull the trailer hitch and mount tire and do a little other maintainance and then GO FOR A RIDE !
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(guess I can buy a patch now, right ?)

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Post  horseman8m Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:15 pm

Welcome to the Darkside
cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers
congrats
give us a ride report when you get a few miles on it.
photos of how you get that big bike out of your basement, I see someone openning up the basement door, revving up the wing , and flying up the stairs and out into the back yard,,,,, weeeeeeeee Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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Post  mikeyrx Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:10 pm

Horseman: thanks for the good words. I should have some pics and a ride report tomorrow night. Have to pull the trailer hitch off to swap tires, then put all the plastic back on - or maybe I'll start off without the bags and back fender just to see what its like.
I think I see how to attach pics to I'll take a few and give it a try.
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Post  horseman8m Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:10 pm

To post pictures on the web ,,,
first have them in your computer in a file that you can find easily,
Then go to photo-bucket:

http://photobucket.com/

get your free account
upload your photos into your account
as you pass your courser over a photo the box will appear:
Email & IM
Direct Link
HTML Code
IMG Code
as you pass over IMG Code click on it
and a "copyed" sign will appear.
then you can go to where you are typing your message and paste the code into your text block.
when you send it , the picture will be posted .
Forenza 175/60-16 on GL 1500 P530006
Good luck,
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Post  mikeyrx Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:59 pm

Well, its on as of this morning, and I just put about 10 miles or so riding around town and over to the church parking lot to do some figure 8's. Mounting the tire was a breeze: putting all the plastic back on the goldwing was a chore. Honda techs should make 100.00/hr if they work onGoldwings.
I am a little disappointed,in that everyone told me if I put a car tire on "Cleopatra's Barge" (my goldwing) that my testicles would shrivel up and my hair would burst into flames. Did not happen. What did happen is that I can now flat foot the bike, its quieter, the dyna beads seem to work well, and on the whole I like it. What I dont like is that while I will retain my manhood and my hair, I will definitely need hernia surgery if I try to put it on the centerstand, and it does sit up straighter on the sidestand. ( I can fix the centerstand dillema by backing the bike up onto a short piece of 2x8 before I put it up I'll bet) The sidestand is not really that bad: I'll just watch where I park. At this point I am running about 34 lbs in the back tire, I may play with that. Got to go ride some more.
Any other darksiders in NW Indiana ?
Sorry, no pictures yet.
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Post  Larry Simpson Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:51 pm

The 2x12 works real good I always used it on my Aspencade,it turns a chore into nothing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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Post  mikeyrx Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:36 am

OK: lets try the picture deal:
here goes;
Forenza 175/60-16 on GL 1500 003

That seems to work: here's a view from the rear:
[IMG]https://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/mmullins46310

and one more:
Forenza 175/60-16 on GL 1500 002

I hope these come through OK.

Had a response from psalmist (sorry I accidentally deleted all my messages including your email address) that I am the first to darkside a GL 1500. Not so. I got the idea and the info from the tech section of the GWWRA board. I cannot take the credit.
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Post  mikeyrx Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:38 am

Well, I got 2 out of 3 pics to come through. Better than my average.
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Post  Oldsmobility Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:00 am

You just forgot the last part of the code "/001.jpg[/IMG]"

Forenza 175/60-16 on GL 1500 001

Looking good.
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Post  Crowsgolds Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:18 pm

little info on ct. running 175 60 16 formoza, I had to air up rear shock to 60 lb to get rid of a wiggle, running 38 lbs in tire, 2 up I run 55 lbs in shock.. feels funny at first, but after 1000 miles you will be scrapping the pegs.. gained 300 rpm, really did not effect gas.. on dirt or gravel you wont beleive how stable it feels. good luck, you will like it.. ps much quiter. I just tell the skeptics no problem, I got a new box of bandaids,

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Post  mikeyrx Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm

Crowsgold: thanks for the tip. I have not played with the shock air pressure at all. I usually run an indicated 50lbs (maybe 51 or 52) and just keep it that way, single or double,trailer, or not. My wife has not been riding lately ( health issues) so its just been me on the G'wing. Have not noticed wiggle unless I get under about 34 lbs, in tire (approx-maybe 1-2 lbs less. For sure at 32 lbs) Been running 38 lbs. and that seemed to eliminate wiggle and "seat of the pants" sensation of transition in tire angle in turns.
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Post  Hide Pounder Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:11 pm

Where can you buy this tire? I have searched the internet and cannot find anyone who carries it. Found one by the brand name of Federal but don't know anything about it.
By the way just joined as I have been interested in going to the dark side with my 1500. I live on gravel and have about 5 miles to get to pavement. The gravel is eating up my Dunlop E3s.
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Post  mikeyrx Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:27 pm

Randy: I think my terminology has been confusing. The brand is indeed Federal. The sidewall says Federal Formoza FD2. The source I was given was tiresonline@tires-easy.com. I actually bought the tire used with about 2K miles on it from a guy who had posted on the GWWRA board. He had tried it, and liked it except for the trailer hitch being lowered too much for his liking. ( I am going to alter my hitch to raise it the required amount.) I have not found another brand of tire in this size. I have been hoping that someone else will chime in here and let us know if there are any other alternatives. One of the other posters on the GWWRA board had supposedly mounted a 195 series tire on a GL 1500, but I think that might actually be too wide. Will have to find the post and email him to clarify that.
Hope this helps
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Post  Hide Pounder Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:17 pm

Dunlop makes an SP Winter Sport in the same size, 175/60/16 but I cannot find a US dealer who lists them for sale. I found one in Canada and have inquired about cost and shipping to Kansas. It is a better looking tire for what it's worth.

Just how much shorter is this tire than a factory E3 MC tire? You talk about the RPM's being higher with that and what you said about the hitch height I presume it is a shorter tire than an orgional MC tire.
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Post  mikeyrx Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:13 pm

Good question on the height difference. If your E3's are like the metzler 880 I took off, then they are 160/80 tires. 160mm wide x .8 (the 80 stands for the height of the sidewall being 80% of the tread width) = 128 mm high ( each side). The 175/60 works out to be 105 mm. high ( 175mm wide x 60% )
This gives us 23 mm difference for each side ( or think of it like I do- top and bottom of tire) which makes for a total difference of 46 mm. ( this works out to be 0.9 in per side or a total difference of 1.8 in. for the diameter). So the bike will sit about 0.9 in lower with the 175/60 tire than with the 160/80 motorcycle tire. This is just enough that you cant put it on the center stand without running the back wheel up on a board to raise it about this amount ( well, I cant,but I'm an old guy and not real big to start with.) I really dont notice any differences due to the lower height, except for the centerstand issue, and also the bike sits up straighter on the sidestand a bit. You just have to watch how you park, but then with a bike this big, you sort of have to anyway. ( I once had a Harley Electra Glide blow over in a parking lot. For real. Bad experience.)
I have not had a chance to look for the email about the 195 width tire, but dont see how it could fit.
Have the plastic off my 1500 now. Will go down and measure the clearance.
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Took me a minute to figure out how to measure this. Ended up trying to slide various sizes of hex keys between the tire and driveshaft side of swingarm. A 3/16 " will slide through with minimal interference. A 7/32 " will slide through, but with more interference. It looks to me that a 175 series will be about the widest tire that can fit,UNLESS the 3.5 " rim width squeezes the sidewalls together enough to let it get by. A possibility. I will check on this and post the results when I get a chance.
I hope this helps, Randy. ( and any others ) I am sure not an expert at this stuff. I guess that I am one of the first to write about it maybe, although I got the idea and info from others. I will say that I am glad I made the switch, and like others here have said, I dont think I will go back to a motorcycle tire again ( as long as I can get one that fits !)
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Post  mikeyrx Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:14 pm

Crowsgold: If you are reading this, where did you get your tire ? I think you are running the Formoza also, correct ?
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Post  Hide Pounder Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:54 am

Okay, I would really like to go dark with a CT. I have this one concern about the heigth of the Federal 175-60-16. This is a 60 series trire which from what I can find on the internet will take approx. 800 revs to go one mile. Where as the 80 series tire I currantly have on my GW will only take about 670 rev per mile. So what concerns me is that by going with the smaller tires as in the 60 series it will take an additional 120 revolutions per mile, thats 121000 extra rev's every 100 miles and so forth. So the CT will be turning approx 15% more than the MC tire. Should this be something to be concerned about as far as wear and tear on the other componets, engine, trans ect. If I could find a tire with the same approx height I would not give it a second thought. But the difference in height is giving me second thoughts about going this way. Has anyone else thought along these lines. What will be the long term effects of running a smaller tire on a 1500.
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Post  Guest Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:30 pm

I share some of the same concerns. Realizing a m/c tire costs around $200 and a c/t costs $100, that seems to be quite a savings (not counting mileage of a c/t) for a 1500. On trips with my wife on back, we carry a Autolinx (plastic golf club carrier) that slides into the trailer hitch. So I've not yet ventured into the c/t yet. I'm still open to the idea and have put them on 2 vtx's with wonderful experiences. I would like to see if there's any more here who have converted to the darkside on their 1500 wing.

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Post  Wingkid94 Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:31 am

Havent put it on yet, just getting around to getting the old one off.. I'll post pictures when I do. Figured the $70 for the tire and the $10 for the "box" wasnt too bad.

Performance Plus Tire
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Post  Wingkid94 Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:27 pm

Wingkid94 wrote:Havent put it on yet, just getting around to getting the old one off.. I'll post pictures when I do. Figured the $70 for the tire and the $10 for the "box" wasnt too bad.

Performance Plus Tire


Wellllll! Apparently that site doesnt like to update their avalibility, that tire is no longer being made, they just emailed me (after a week) of noticing that my card wasnt charged and told me that... So now I'm at a loss to where I can get the tire from.. The bike is sitting with no tire on the rim.. AWESOME! No
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Post  Wingkid94 Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:19 pm

Tires-easy.com

Heres another link to that size..
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Post  mikeyrx Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:24 am

Wingkid: have you found a tire yet ?
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Post  Wingkid94 Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:13 am

mikeyrx wrote:Wingkid: have you found a tire yet ?
Mikeyrx

Yup, that tire-easy.com site had them in stock have plenty left too if anyone needs them. I ordered them the night i posted, and got it this morning! Looks good. Gonna put it on in a little while.
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Post  Wingkid94 Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:33 am

Wingkid94 wrote:
mikeyrx wrote:Wingkid: have you found a tire yet ?
Mikeyrx

Yup, that tire-easy.com site had them in stock have plenty left too if anyone needs them. I ordered them the night i posted, and got it this morning! Looks good. Gonna put it on in a little while.

I LOVE this tire. It handles MUCH better for the way I ride. Gotta be more cautious about slow speed hard braking as the tire will lock up now. Other than that. I have ABSOLUTELY no complaints. Will.. NEVER go back cheers cheers cheers
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Post  quadancer Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:03 pm

Can you measure just exactly how WIDE the inflated tire is, sidewall to sidewall? I can't find a 165 for the Heritage at all, so wonder if this will fit. The height is perfect for my bike.
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